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Oil Down but fuel ?

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 07:38

Ken S

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Oil has dropped by over $30 a barrel , but diesel prices in Bathurst are close to $1.80 per litre , close to the price when oil was $147 per barrell what's going on ???????
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AnswerID: 322404   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 07:47

Ken S replied:

What's in a barrel of oil? (Part 1)
OK, so... One barrel generally fills up to 42 US gallons. How many litres is that?
42 x 3.78541178 = 158.9873 = 159 litres

There is 159 litres of oil in a barrel. But not all of the oil are used in today's vehicles. What does a barrel of oil consists of? What are the elements?

1. Finished motor gasoline (51.4%)
2. Distillate fuel oil (15.3%)
3. Jet fuel (12.3%)
4. Still gas (5.4%)
5. Marketable coke (5.0%) [Ha??!! That's where Coke drink comes from?? I wonder...]
6. Residual fuel oil (3.3%)
7. Liquefied refinery gas (2.8%)
8. Asphalt and Road oil (1.7%)
9. Other refined products (1.5%)
10. Lubricants (0.9%)
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FollowupID: 589462   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:11

Skippype posted:

Interesting breakdown Ken....Also depends where the fuel comes from. Some of the heavy crude from the middle east would not quite get those figures. Australian crude, as it is quite light, would produce more gasoline.....
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AnswerID: 322405   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 07:51

Notso replied:

we are down to $171.9 per litre here in Forbes.

Makes you wonder about how they can charge $1.80 in Bathurst.

I was in Orange yesterday and it was $1.78 a litre there.
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FollowupID: 589446   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:11

Member - Doug T (NT) posted:

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FollowupID: 589448   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:16

Ken S posted:

Bathurst seems to be the pinnacle of prices , travel east and the prices get cheaper , travel west and the prices get cheaper , Broken Hill last year was over ten cents cheaper than Bathurst when I passed through there . Maybe Bathurst has the name of being a draw card for petrol heads and so must pay higher for their addiction .
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FollowupID: 589483   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:17

Member - Madfisher posted:

Just checked prices in Bathurst for diesel 175.9, but only (LOL) 170.9 at Yetholme. Still a rip of unleaded has only come down 9 cents to 159.9. DO NOT fill up in Bathurst just put enough in to get you down the road a bit.
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AnswerID: 322413   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:37

The Landy replied:

When oil was at its highs so was the Australian dollar (0.98 cents). Today the Australian dollar is trading at 0.8500 cents a fall of 15%, so in Australian dollar terms the price of a barrel of oil has decliuned but not to the same extent as it has in US dollar terms....
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AnswerID: 322416   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:43

Member - Mfewster(SA) replied:

Over the same period the Oz $ has fallen heavily, so the actual price has risen accordingly. The high Oz $ over the last 12 months largely protected us from the worst of the fuel price rises in that time.
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AnswerID: 322435   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:51

DIO replied:

Bathurst is on a main highway and passing traffic will pay the going price. The retailers are only pricing according to the willingness of motorists to pay. Boycott buying at Bathurst and watch how quickly the price drops. Many people in country areas expect to pay more for some commodities, fuel included. In many cases they shouldn't have to do so. Remember, the POWER of the consumer. p.s. at least the higher prices of diesel are contributing to lower prices for petrol throughout the country.
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AnswerID: 322438   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:04

Louie the fly (SA) replied:

Dist has been $1.669 in Woodside SA for about the last week, & ULP is $1.469 at the mo. Will update the fuel prices tonight for that location. Two weeks ago dist. was $1.889.

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FollowupID: 589517   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:18

Member - DAZA (QLD) posted:

Hey Louie

Diesel is $1.599 at my local Servo at the southern end of the Glitzy
Gold Coast.

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AnswerID: 322463   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:40

Shaker replied:

If the Governmant can't tell you & the Petrol Commisioner can't tell you, what makes you think anyone here would be able to??
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FollowupID: 589518   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:41

Shaker posted:

Typo ... Governmant should read Government!
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AnswerID: 322567   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:40

Member - Barnesy replied:

Ken, I thought it was common knowledge that the price of crude had no relation to the cost of fuel at the servo?

It's a simple supply and demand equation. The oil companies will charge the highest price that customers will still pay. It's all about making the largest profit. You can complain about the government, fuel taxes etc etc but the price won't come down.

The only thing that will bring the price down is if the majority of vehicles begin using renewable fuels thereby reducing demand. I'm waiting eagerly for the introduction of a diesel replacement fuel (or similar) that I can run my 4wd on.

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FollowupID: 589625   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:00

Ken S posted:

Barnesy you are so right , 100% .
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